The Pro Photo Business Forum

If this is your first ime here, then welcome! I’m so proud of this site and its members!

My name is Aric Hoek, and I have been a professional photographer all my life. 100% of my income has been, and always will be from photography. I’m the host of The Pro Photo Business Forum.

Anyone who knows me, knows that I love talking about the business of wedding photography to just about anyone that will listen, so the creation of the Pro Photo Business Forum was a very natural progression for me.

You’re either the type of person that likes to hang out in forums, or you aren’t. There isn’t much in between. If you like forums, then you are going to notice one fundamental difference when you visit the home page of the Pro Photo Business Forum. The difference you see is in what’s NOT there. You don’t see a listing of recent posts. You don’t see forum statistics. You don’t see a listing of members. You don’t see calendars.

What you do see is information that can help photographers, which is what this community is all about. What you do see is a blog, created by the members of the forum. And we’re not just talking about how to take great photographs, but we are talking about the things that really matter to professional photographers. We’re talking about the business of photography.  We’re talking about the bottom line.

Would you like to join us? Would you like to contribute to our blog as a PPBF Contributing Writer?

We’re looking for experienced photographers to help contribute to our new experiment. In return for two scheduled blog entries a month, PPBF Contributing Writers receive the following:

1. Free access to the Pro Photo Business Forum.
2. Recognition on the PPBF homepage.
3. A link to your homepage from the PPBF homepage.
4. A link to your homepage in the signature of your articles.
5. Access to a privte staff forum on the PPBF.
6. Profile page with a listing of all your articles.

Contact us today if you are interested in filling the a position. Currently we have five contributing writers. My goal is an ambitious fifteen. With fifteen Contributing Writers, each writing two articles, the blog will have fresh information for it’s readers every day of the month!

Come and join the ride! Contact us today!

You’ll never be the same. You’ll be better!

Two years ago now I had the idea of creating this forum. Today it’s a reality. For so long now I have been pushing in one direction; production of the site. Like an oil tanker, slowly moving in one direction as an unstoppable force. However, now that the site is built I feel that I can breathe a bit, but I am also realizing that I now need to change directions. I need to promote.

An oil tanker doesn’t just stop and turn on a dime though. Switching from production mode to promotion mode is going to take a bit of doing. I actually need to learn how to promote the site, as I have no idea on how to do that effectively. So, I’ve decided to no longer be an oil tanker. Instead, I’m going to think more like a humming bird.

The forum is not a free site, and while the cost of access is minimal, that cost is still going to make things much harder for this site to really thrive. The cost is a necessary evil for a site like this. I know I need to promote the site in order for it to work, and I am also aware that I know very little about large scale product promotion. The Oil Tanker in me would hunker down and start reading books and get seriously educated on the subject, and I still may do just that. However, I know it would take months, and perhaps even a year or more for me alone to really get the ball rolling, and I don’t have that kind of time. Nor do the members of the site.

The humming bird can stop on a dime and change directions. It thinks three dimensionally. Because I want to get things rolling fast, I have hired a PR Firm to promote the PPBF! This will allow me to stop on a dime and change my momentum immediately! This PR frim has surely already made all the mistakes that I am sure to make if I had decided to promote the site myself. I think it’s a smart move, and I’m glad I am investing in the idea.

I owe it to the paying members of the site to make this community all it can be, and I’m committed to doing just that. The PPBF is a place where portrait and wedding photographers can better themselves, and I want to see that grow.

We’ve set goals, and they start next week. I am so excited! Change is good, and I’m ready for it.

Wedding and portrait photographers, join the PPBF today!

Whose Pond Is It Anyway?

Writen by: Scott Villalobos

In the wedding and portrait photography business, sooner rather then later you are going to have to ask yourself this question, “Why am I competing with Uncle Bob?” Perhaps the real question we need to ask ourselves is, “Why am I attracting people that would rather hire uncle Bob as opposed to me?”

In the words of wedding photojournalist great, Denis Reggie, “If your fishing in a pond with little fish in it, don’t be surprised if all you catch is little fish. If you want to catch big fish, fish in the pond that has the big fish. This often means changing ponds.”

Many people just starting out get stuck in this exact situation. They charged low, low prices to attract business and build their portfolios. Then the brides friends start calling wanting the same deal their friend got one or even two years later. The problem is now your more confident, have gained experience, have a decent portfolio, and you’ve finally figured out that you weren’t making any money so you decided to raise your prices. That’s great, but is your clientele willing to pay the extra? Not if you haven’t gotten new clientele and I’m not talking about new faces but different clientele. So as Denis says, “It’s time to move to a new pond.”

If you are just starting out how can you gain valuable experience without getting stuck in the low-end market? There are many ways to gain experience and build your portfolio without having to slit your wrist for your clients.

One of the best ways is to learn by proxy. This means working for other photographers either as an assistant and working your way into a second shooter roll, or if you’ve already cut your teeth on a few weddings and want to shoot your own, look for a studio that uses associates. No you’re not going to get rich this way, but you will gain experience without having all the responsibility of being in business for yourself. You will also be able to create relationships with other vendors. Why is this important? Because other vendors may be able to help you drop your lures in the big pond, so treat them well, they are like fish finders.

One thing that I’ve noticed in the last three or four years is that many people think they can follow in the steps of the Bella Pictures of the world. The business model is volume driven and nationwide service. This means they use alot of local photographers especially in the bigger cities. While there is a market for this type of service, there is an even greater opportunity for new photographers to gain experience and knowledge of the industry by going to work for one of them. However, this can also be a double edged sword as you may find them to be your greatest competition in later years, and these guys work cheap and create albums cheap. But if you think you can handle your own weddings and want to perfect your style and technical savvy this might be the way to go. You won’t get rich, you may not even make enough to pay the rent, but you can make a name for yourself and if your good get referrals for future jobs.

But let’s look at the problem. You keep hearing that your competing for business with either a family member, a photography student or a relative who is an avid enthusiast. What do you do then?

The answer is not necessarily saying that I’m a pro-photographer with years of experience. I was at the Bridal Extravaganza back in July and one of the best photographers in Houston ($10K+) came up to me and said, “There sure is alot of great photography here.” Many of these photographers are in their first couple of years in the business and the truth is they were darn good at their craft. There are alot of uncle Bob’s that are also darn good at their craft even though they are not professionals. How will you convince a bride and groom or even worse, the brides mother to lay down 3 to 7K with you?

To answer this question you need to know that being a professional means alot more then charging to photograph wedding or portraits or whatever. It means being a businessperson, a marketer, customer service oriented and good with people. If your not good with people you won’t get very far in this business. People have to like you. When people can make a connection with you they will be drawn to you and your services. You have to give the customer a professional experience. You need to show professional products in a professional way. You need to have a polished presentation & pricelist. You need to offer products that stand out. You need to let your customers know that you are not just a shoot and dump photographer, but that you actually care about them and their finished products. (I’ll get more into detail about this aspect in a later post.)

Ultimately if your choosing to compete with uncle Bob you will find that your not going to get anywhere fast. On the other hand, if you choose to compete with professionals, be a professional. However you choose to do it, if your starting from scratch and you find that your greatest competition is a guy named uncle Bob, you may consider changing ponds.

Well, I am so excited right now!  The Pro Photo Business Forum went live yesterday, and I’m just on cloud nine.  At least the forum has gone live.  My fabulous web designer, Leanne, has been working very hard at converting my design instructions into a reality, and I’m so pleased with the results.

Today I wanted to share with you an idea that can last your entire career as a photographer.  If you are just starting out as a wedding or portrait photographer, I would like to suggest that you join a few professional photographic organizations.

As a wedding photographer, you should really attempt to find a local guild of professional photographers.  Most major metropolises will have one.  One of the main benefits of joining a local professional group is the fact that you will create resources that you can fall back on if you are ever unable to make it to a contracted wedding.

If it is the morning of a wedding and you wake up with a 102 fever, or something worse, it may be impossible for you to make it to the wedding.  But, if you have joined a local group of professional photographers, then you can contact the director of membership and have him/her send out a blast email to the entire group asking for emergency help.

Now, let me also say that you really need to have an “inner circle” as well.  This group would be the group of photographers that you would refer business to if you yourself were unable to photograph an event due to unavailability.  Your “inner circle”  should always be your first call in the case of an emergency.  Your professional organization is your fall back position.

Happy shooting.